"I think that's why I keep thinking about him like a ghost. He's like... an action that never ends. Like he's only still doing all of this because he thinks he has to, and not because he actually wants to. That he's only still having fun because he's getting the input he'd need to have fun. Like... a sausage machine."

Suffering in, fun out, as a process and not out of any genuine enjoyment.

"The issue is that I don't know how to help him. Back home if a ghost was doing this sort of thing, we'd like... find what was keeping it here and help it with that, or just. Stab it until it stopped. Maybe eat it. But we can't help 'Hiram' with apotheosis, it's impossible."