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come_sailaway2023-01-08 12:38 pm
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This is my fight song
Who: Arilanna Tayrey and OPEN
What: January catch-all including poetry club!
When: Approximately January 2-12
Where: Various
Warnings: Criticism of Christianity, possible trial angst, will update if necessary
Note: I use brackets but please write however you prefer!
1. Like a small boat on the ocean (Lounge)
[Ari Tayrey spent several days after their return sneaking around the ship, trying to escape notice, or at least escape anyone asking awkward questions about what happened. All her energy has been given over to looking after Nobunaga, to trying to smooth things over with people she feels she may have hurt.
Now, she seems back to herself again. The familiar figure in the familiar blue uniform. She's quieter than she was, less likely to approach people, but she's taking up space again. Catch her in the lounge, where she'll be working on one of her projects. Maybe it's drawing another map, or decorating a star chart. Maybe you'll see her using her new drawing board to create a very precise technical drawing of a starship. You might see her branching out and struggling to whittle - she'd better be careful of her fingers!
If it's getting towards mid-January, you may note that alongside her actual gun, she now seems to have a water pistol. Very odd and incongruous for someone as serious as her!]
2. Sending big waves into motion (Stairs)
[None of this is any excuse to abandon her training. Ari doesn't like jogging. It's still uncomfortable and she'd much rather be in the gym with the weights, doing something she knows she's good at. However, this isn't a starship, and chances are she's going to have to run from something someday. In the interest of efficiency, she does her cardio work on the stairs. Up all the flights and down again, as fast as she can.
Usually she chooses a time when this isn't going to bother anyone else, but her schedule has been erratic since she got back from the hotel. She fits things in where she can. The end result of this is that Ari Tayrey comes careening around the staircase corner at top speed - and if she doesn't collide with an unseen person on the other side, it's a very near miss! Of course she stops to make sure they're alright.]
I didn't see you there! I'm sorry!
3. I might only have one match (Poetry Club)
[Poetry Club is Oda Nobunaga's project, but Ari determines that he's not presently in the right frame of mind to be organising it, so who better to take over than his second? If you're a friend of Ari's, a friend of Nobunaga's, a regular attendee, or just someone she sees standing around when it's due to begin, she'll invite you in. There are complimentary drinks and little cakes. Share a poem you like, share a poem you've written, or just listen.
She has two contributions. The first ends up something of a performance piece - young Lieutenant Tayrey in her spacer uniform giving a quietly emotive recitation of a poem about love and tragedy out in the black. It's a departure from her usual choices, which tend to involve heroic battles of one kind or another.
Towards the end, she offers to share an Earther poem. Ari might not be comfortable with the religiosity of it, but something within it speaks to her all the same. Still, if you're from Earth, she might quietly ask you afterwards:]
Was Adam a very famous Earth engineer?
[Answer her, or else have general poetry chat instead! Threadhopping/mingling tags welcome for this one.]
4. But I can make an explosion (Wildcard!)
[For anything else. Ari can easily be found in one of the bars, the gym, swimming pool or sports deck, or gathering supplies from various places for prepping purposes - but I'm open to all ideas - PM me, message on Plurk, or just put up a starter and we'll see what happens!]
What: January catch-all including poetry club!
When: Approximately January 2-12
Where: Various
Warnings: Criticism of Christianity, possible trial angst, will update if necessary
Note: I use brackets but please write however you prefer!
1. Like a small boat on the ocean (Lounge)
[Ari Tayrey spent several days after their return sneaking around the ship, trying to escape notice, or at least escape anyone asking awkward questions about what happened. All her energy has been given over to looking after Nobunaga, to trying to smooth things over with people she feels she may have hurt.
Now, she seems back to herself again. The familiar figure in the familiar blue uniform. She's quieter than she was, less likely to approach people, but she's taking up space again. Catch her in the lounge, where she'll be working on one of her projects. Maybe it's drawing another map, or decorating a star chart. Maybe you'll see her using her new drawing board to create a very precise technical drawing of a starship. You might see her branching out and struggling to whittle - she'd better be careful of her fingers!
If it's getting towards mid-January, you may note that alongside her actual gun, she now seems to have a water pistol. Very odd and incongruous for someone as serious as her!]
2. Sending big waves into motion (Stairs)
[None of this is any excuse to abandon her training. Ari doesn't like jogging. It's still uncomfortable and she'd much rather be in the gym with the weights, doing something she knows she's good at. However, this isn't a starship, and chances are she's going to have to run from something someday. In the interest of efficiency, she does her cardio work on the stairs. Up all the flights and down again, as fast as she can.
Usually she chooses a time when this isn't going to bother anyone else, but her schedule has been erratic since she got back from the hotel. She fits things in where she can. The end result of this is that Ari Tayrey comes careening around the staircase corner at top speed - and if she doesn't collide with an unseen person on the other side, it's a very near miss! Of course she stops to make sure they're alright.]
I didn't see you there! I'm sorry!
3. I might only have one match (Poetry Club)
[Poetry Club is Oda Nobunaga's project, but Ari determines that he's not presently in the right frame of mind to be organising it, so who better to take over than his second? If you're a friend of Ari's, a friend of Nobunaga's, a regular attendee, or just someone she sees standing around when it's due to begin, she'll invite you in. There are complimentary drinks and little cakes. Share a poem you like, share a poem you've written, or just listen.
She has two contributions. The first ends up something of a performance piece - young Lieutenant Tayrey in her spacer uniform giving a quietly emotive recitation of a poem about love and tragedy out in the black. It's a departure from her usual choices, which tend to involve heroic battles of one kind or another.
Towards the end, she offers to share an Earther poem. Ari might not be comfortable with the religiosity of it, but something within it speaks to her all the same. Still, if you're from Earth, she might quietly ask you afterwards:]
Was Adam a very famous Earth engineer?
[Answer her, or else have general poetry chat instead! Threadhopping/mingling tags welcome for this one.]
4. But I can make an explosion (Wildcard!)
[For anything else. Ari can easily be found in one of the bars, the gym, swimming pool or sports deck, or gathering supplies from various places for prepping purposes - but I'm open to all ideas - PM me, message on Plurk, or just put up a starter and we'll see what happens!]
Poetry
Nope. First man in Christianity. The book of Genesis is the first book in the Christian bible and supposedly Adam was the first human and his only job was to give Gods' creations names.
Names are important.
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It's a story about the origin of language, then?
I'm presuming that, and not that he went about telling trees he was naming them Stanley or Suzanna.
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I just assumed it's about... [He has to GENUINELY think, because he read it ONCE, in Portuguese, give him a minute.]
[Slowly:] Curiosity is bad. [WAGGLES FINGERS to show he doesn't agree, obviously.] You shouldn't wander outside of ~paradise~ wooo. Just stay ~safe~ and don't go exploring. Just trust God to do everything and praise him for making things, don't make things yourself, because puny humans shouldn't aspire to achieve greatness.
You'd have to ask a true believer for their perspective, but that was mine. I guess it's probably abstract enough, like some art, that it's different to almost everyone.
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[This is a very mild example, but she keeps having that problem with Earth poetry. References and allusions that mean nothing to her.]
I thought Christians thought their god was good, though. That just makes him seem like a tyrant.
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[Pinches the bridge between his eyes.] Christians -- Mind you, again, you'd have to ask a true believer, and I don't know of any on board. They see him as a father figure. Their god. Very... [Tyrannical. No wait. How would Luis Frois argue it.] Knows best, even if it's restrictive. [Knuckles his temples because that makes him think of Klaus. SORRY TEYREY IT'S A THING.] I think it's a planetsider thing. Like out in space there might be stuff, but it's really far and hard to get to, and everything you need is right here in this stupid garden, so stop trying to build a ladder to get out.
Yare yare, again I come from -- a unique perspective on my own. No one leaves Japan, and I'm one of the only ones even centuries later who wanted to. Obviously Luis Frois and the missionaries didn't hate exploring or see it as a punishment to set out into the rest of the world.
So just the story, as I remember it.
God made the universe and everything in it. First there was only darkness. Then he made light. Then he went about making everything. Oceans, rocks, plants, so on. Lastly he made Adam so Adam could see all that he made, because art, when it isn't shared, still lacks an audience. And Adam was like "cool, cool," and went about naming things, because Adam was an idiot. [Religion according Oda: "And they were all idiots."] And God was just like, "I'm gonna rest now. You name things." Because names are important, and that gave him insight into how Adam liked it, and then Adam would live in harmony with his garden. And whatever.
And then God made a woman so she could have sex with Adam. Whatever.
[RELIGION ACCORDING TO ODA.]
And God had one rule: don't eat the fruit of knowledge.
And this went on for years or whatever, and the devil [The true cool guy of the story CLEARLY.] was like "Damn this is sooooo boring. Don't you guys want to eat the fruit? Why is it banned anyway? Eat it. Eat it." And they were like "shut up loser, God knows best." And he was like "Nuh-uh, he's just scared you'll be as powerful as him if you eat it. I bet he eats it." Just like Wukong and the Jade Emperor's special peaches.
So they ate it.
And then they were like "Oh no! I'm so ashamed, I stung god! I'm a terrible weapon!" [Totally has already converted Christianiy in his head into Yato-religion. Sure.] And they were like "If we wear clothes, we can hide from God!" And for some stupid reason, God was like, "Yeah I'll play along. Where did you guys go?!" And they were like "We're sorry we're gross and ugly and naked, don't look at us!" and he was insulted because he made them, and he was like "What the fuck? Oh you ate the stupid fruit. What changed?" and they told him about the devil, but he already kicked the devil out of heaven, so then he just kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden and told them to get a real job on their own, and work hard to make their own food, and deal with animals instead of being lazy moochers.
[.... Thumbs up?]
I think... Christians think the Old Testament is highly metaphorical, and that the story of Adam is more about how... he should have trusted God instead of trying to fuck around and find out.
I think.
[........... This has been Bible Stories with Nobunaga. Tune in next time for Revelations... Or Cain & Abel. Who knows.]
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Do Christians expect that when they tell this story, people will see God as the hero? If it's supposed to be a lesson about obeying rightful authority, it fails, because the authority is incompetent. You can't blame people for being lazy moochers if you're the one who told them that their only job was to name things. That's all on you. And he should have told them why they shouldn't eat the fruit...
[No, no, it's even worse than that!] Wait, if he made everything, didn't he make the fruit too? He didn't have to do that. Or he could have made it and put it somewhere else, not in Adam's garden. And it's the fruit of knowledge? That part's not even metaphorical, it's outright saying that knowledge is bad.
I don't see how anyone can read that and reach the conclusion that this god is a good being.
[Biblical interpretation Tradeliner-style, sorry Nobunaga.]
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I think it was a test. To see if humans wanted to do things their own hard way or be obedient. This is why I empathize with the devil. He's all, "rebel like me!" All Earther religion tends to be about complacency is better than trying new things. And austerity, and not trying to try new things or you'll lose the paradise you already have. Something like that.
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[Yes, she's taking this seriously.]
Who made the devil? Even if we take the perspective that the right answer was obedience - and I certainly don't think it was, and I say that as someone who does believe there are situations where it's best and most efficient for people to do as they're told - but say it was, why is this devil in the garden stirring things up anyway? Is this god allowing him to do that?
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God made him. Because he gave the devil and angels free will to defy him. Because -- speaking as the most powerful man on Earth for my time -- power is nothing without someone to appreciate it. And when he told the angels he was going to give humans free will the devil and and a bunch of others all said that's fucking stupid and God kicked them out. So their whole thing is trying to make God suffer for it.
But none of that is in the Bible. Apparently it is very argued among the higher ups. They try to downplay the demons and angels because they are worried humans are stupid enough to worship the demons or angels instead of the creator. I can't say they're wrong. I only know of this because-- Amaterasu. Luis Frois and the others would say to me, "The sun can't be a God, because God made the sun." And I'd say, "who made god?" And they'd say, "No one. He developed consciousness and made everything else and let it all play out." If it can be seen by humans, it's not God, it's something he made. He wanted to test the strength of his creation.
And some stuff about "God has a plan for everything," but this is me. I only respect someone whether a lowly untouchable or a God, who has the bravery to come see me face to face. Luis said-- I'm not sure. I want to say, "But that would make you want to leave Earth," but I already did. Planetsiders are weird, are we not?
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[She shakes her head.] The sun can't be a god because it's only an in-system name for a star, and there are billions of stars out there. I've seen plenty, and never anything approaching a god until I came here. [Until recently, she would have said that all so-called gods were alien charlatans, but she has too much respect for Yato to hold to that now. Maybe he's a powerful alien, but he's certainly in earnest about his responsibilities.]
What would Christians say about people from other planets? That this god made us too?
Cw: religion according to the lunatic who thinks he's demonic
[Both hands up in a shrug.] It's widely disputed even among Christians, as I said.
What I personally know of this, is in how it relates to me. Both the Demon King and Satan would detest humans agreeing with him, because that's not the point. He doesn't like humans, he thinks they're inferior, and that, while rebelling against even superior beings is good, you should also rebel against himself. Surpass him. Since I embraced the title they gave me, I know much about the theories behind it. The Demon King uses people's weaknesses -- what the religious see as weaknesses, mind you, so enjoying luxuries, or rebellion, or questioning God's authority or existence -- no wait. They don't have a problem with that. They spend all their time trying to prove it, as if it matters, point is... change religions hate change. They'd rather everything stayed in perfect balance. They'd rather people starved instead of ate the forbidden fruit God refused to share with his monkeys, just told them to guard. Like sure, maybe it's poisonous, but do you know? So is blowfish. Fugu. I will show you in Mikabo. Though you shouldn't eat it. Thousands of Japanese die trying to eat it. There's a special sushi technique to make it slightly less lethal, but even then it's still poisonous. It paralyzes people, so in low doses it's tingly. Like drugs. So even when it's not at the expense of death, people will poison themselves. Because that is how they exercise their free will. Free to be stupid. [Thumbs up.]
This is why my law was join or die. Because obviously joining me is the way to live, but some people will always choose death. And the devil was like "This is a stupid waste, and everyone is stupid. Including God. And I will prove it and make him regret it."
I am not sure how they would view aliens. Mind you, it is not like they think God was involved in every minor process. The Bible has him taking a break after Adam. And then kind of checking in when shit got worse. Like... after he kicked Adam and Eve out into the world exiled from the garden, they had two sons Cain and Abel. And one killed the other.
[Shit. Why does that nearly give him a panic attack?! He clenches both hands on his sword to steady himself. Breathing. Calm. His face doesn't show the stress at least.] And God didn't prevent it or anything. Or make them fix this. The idea was to show -- [Eyes closed for a moment, trying hard as he'll not to think of his brother.] Jealousy. One was jealous of the other for doing what God wanted, all this sacrifice and obedience, and the other, [His throat feels like it will close up!] was jealous of the benefits if it, so killed him. And this is because Adam and Eve were stuck trying to fend for themselves in the wilderness... or something.
Anyway, God only made the first two. Supposedly. The others are their descendants. So I think they would say God made your first ancestors. And the ability for them to make more. The reason you can't hear God is because you don't know how to listen, and it would be removing free will, the freedom to doubt his, it's existence, to force you to see him.
Like Amaterasu. She did not force me to see her as herself, but she let me. Even though i thought we were enemies, she still indulged me and let me challenge her to an eating contest. She kicked my ass at it, but it was still fun to try, and Christians would hate that. [Giant beam.] Better to starve, right? Well the Christians aren't quite as severe as the Buddhists, but they still have fasting and whatever. I guess to prove how strong they are. And God -- when he made himself human, he came to Earth as Christ, and went 40 days without food or water, supposedly. And the devil was like, "Come on dude, you're God, just do some miracles, and end this sillyness," and he was like, "No, unlike Adam, I won't take a wife so she can't pressure me into eating anything." Something like that.
It's all... to quote my own impression of the devil: stupid.
The smartest Christians like Luis Frois don't try to convert you. They try to find commonalities to let you convert yourself. So rather than say God made you, suggest he made your furthest back ancestors, and they'd try to understand your values, and work within that. They might get frustrated in my time though, because everything they're obsessed with is the unseen. Not just feelings, or ideas, but the idea of ideas. Thoughts. Core identity. What separates humans from animals? What is love? Sacrifice? Martyrdom. There's a high premium on obedience too, but I think Frois agrees with me, that's not religious, it's a cultural foible that the devil exploits. And you'd get frustrated too, because at least in my time, it's extremely political. I promised to help you navigate such things so you'll be stronger at it, not do it for you, because that wouldn't suffice, but on Earth, religion and politics are like this. [Crosses two fingers!] From what I can tell with Yato, that's true in the future too.